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Post by dhiya on Aug 30, 2014 15:10:05 GMT
I think Scarlet Pimpernel is the hero in the story, because he's helping the French people to escape and gain their freedom. Though, seeing from another perspective, he seems to be a threat and a rebel whose true identity is not known yet. However, I think the author has shown us lots of times (from the description, etc in chap.2-3) that scarlet pimpernel is a hero.
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Post by crystalcao on Aug 30, 2014 15:14:09 GMT
He saved people because he want to help his country not for his personal matter, so for his country and standpoint, he is a hero.
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Post by irin on Aug 30, 2014 19:40:24 GMT
he is a hero tried to help and save the people I think scarlet pimpernel is hero to the rich who tried to flee but not hero to the poor who tried to kill the rich people.
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Post by misato on Aug 31, 2014 3:08:35 GMT
I do not this he is a hero in this novel but I can say he is hero also. I guess, somehow he had do evil things for protect people and help them escape. Also, we do not know he is a hero to everyone or not.
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Post by James on Aug 31, 2014 5:09:41 GMT
Since the definition of a "hero" varies among people, I don't think we will be able to define whether the league is a group of hero or not, at least not now. It is very subjective term to ask people that question. To the citizens of France, the Scarlet Pimpernel would actually be the villains, and to the aristocrats, they would be the hero. I basically think that it is too soon to assume whether they are hero or not. I wish, in the future, I'll be able to find the answer out.
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Post by hansoo on Aug 31, 2014 5:59:20 GMT
Because we have not yet covered enough part to determine whether Scarlet Pimpernel is a hero, I want to share my general view on hero. I fully understand how you mention hero can be different based on perspectives of others. However, I believe if someone is a true hero, he or she should be considered as a hero from every perspective. As a counter example, Hitler is a villain. He is a villain not only from Jewish perspective but also from German view. Regardless of any circumstance, Hitler is a villain to all. That's why I believe to become a hero is a fairly challenging achievement because he or she has to be an universal and holistic character.
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Post by elisalee on Aug 31, 2014 12:51:30 GMT
For me, this question has no right or wrong answer because if the answer can be supported with evidences, then it is not wrong. I think Scarlet Pimpernel is not the hero in this story because if he/she is, then the story will be too predictable. I believe that there will be another person who was doing all the hero acts behind all the people. Also, according to the novel, the "bad" people are the lower class people and the "good" or "innocent" people are the upper class people. Scarlet could be called hero because he saves upper class people life, but are upper class people really good people? You can say that they are the good people, but I really think that this question is hard to answer.
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Post by dannyoh on Aug 31, 2014 15:38:33 GMT
I think it all really depends on which side you take. I think he's a hero for saving the people and maybe he's a hero to the aristocrats but he's the enemy to the gaurds and the commoners.
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Post by anyuchen on Sept 1, 2014 11:12:54 GMT
i think scarlet pimerpal is actually hero. Although he is always saving others without showing his faces. he indeed save many aristrocts in his method. some may complain about that as a hero he should come out instead of always acting in the dark side. soem people may also complain about that he save those nobale who has extort average people. i think others may have different opinions from different aspect.
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Post by agneslianaputri on Sept 2, 2014 13:52:02 GMT
well, the guards are the bad guys and the people in the town are too, they view head chopping as a "fun thing to watch". If scarlet pimpernel hadn't help set the aristocats away then madame guilotine would kill more and more people.
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Post by danielkim on Sept 7, 2014 9:04:10 GMT
French aristocrats who are threatened by mobs view Scarlet Pimpernel as a hero but French peasants who want to kill the aristocrats view him as a villain. Whether he is a hero or not depends on the person’s perspective. To me, I think Scarlet Pimpernel is not a hero because he is saving corrupted aristocrats. However, if he saves innocent aristocrats who are not corrupted, then he is a hero. My opinions might change if I finish the book.
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Post by hansoo on Sept 7, 2014 14:34:38 GMT
Up to where we have covered, we are now aware of how Pimpernel has been saving French people by helping them escape from France and settle in England. And based on his achievements, many people consider him as a hero because he's taking risk to help other people's lives. However, if it turns out that he had other motifs or had violated ethics, will you still consider him as a hero? For instance, if he saved others to raise his status or reputation in English society, is he a hero? Something to think about...
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Post by jmoon234 on Sept 7, 2014 15:01:35 GMT
A hero isn't showing justice to everyone, but they are presenting the path for one side of people. Hero are just names that people state when they think they are doing something right for one side and not the other. The Scarlet Pimpernel is the side of the people who wanted freedom. To the opposing side, the guards in the gates would think that the Scarlet Pimpernel is "evil" in their perspective. What it is to be a hero isn't about being a kind to everyone. Heroes have to show aggressive emotions to the opposing side as well.
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Post by bachle on Sept 9, 2014 7:55:22 GMT
Hero is always good for one side and bad for the other, If connecting it to other heroic story such as superman, we can see that to people he is awesome and amazing hero and to those monsters, he is such a jerk. You can say that but in the Scarlet pimpernel's case, the poor is not as bad as those monsters. But actually they do, they are doing the insane thing such as carnage and they think that's it's amusing.
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Post by jason on Sept 30, 2014 16:32:50 GMT
Scarlet Pimpernel will be considered a hero to the French nobles, but he/she would be considered a evil to the French revolutionists. However, generally, Scarlet Pimpernel is seen as a hero without a face who helps nobles escape from France to avoid execution in the guillotine. In this sense, he is considered a hero because he is saving people's lives for sure. However, if you are on the French revolutionists' side, you would definitely see him as evil; who helps selfish nobles escape from them being 'punished.'
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