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Post by hansoo on Mar 8, 2015 12:38:50 GMT
Everyone knows the mock trial is coming up.
Everyone is given his or her character or stance on the issue whether he is guilty or not.]
However, I'm just curious about how you really think, regardless of your given character.
Can his murders or madness be justified?
If this happens, and you are requested to judge the case, what would be your conclusion?
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Post by James on Mar 8, 2015 13:41:54 GMT
I don't think killing a person can ever be justified, but since I'm supposed to defend him... I think his actions of killing people are justified as he was going through a lot of stuff...
His dad passed away, his mom just got married to his uncle, his lover left him, and etc.
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Post by elisalee on Mar 8, 2015 14:01:28 GMT
I personally think that killing a person can be justified if it was self defence. Hamlet wasn't exactly sane after his dad passed away, knew that his uncle got married to his mom, etc. When his mind wasn't set, he saw someone behind the curtain so he tried to defend himself and his mom.
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Post by lins on Mar 8, 2015 14:40:04 GMT
I also think that Hamlet is guilty for murdering Polonius, and Claudius. I believe that his murder was not justified even if Claudius murdered his own dad. What is Hamlet to decide one's fate? I thought in this culture, the one who could control one's destiny was god. He is the only one who could control everything. Hamlet, the normal human, has no right to decide one's death. Hamlet, by killing his own uncle and Polonius, is becoming the same as Claudius, whom Hamlet despised the most. For Hamlet himself, and for every other people, he shouldn't have planned all the revenge. Because of his plan, so many people suffered, Gertrude, Claudius, Ophelia, Laertes, Polonius, Horatio and Hamlet himself.
Hamlet, the cause of all the problem and the point of the play, is guilty for planning the revenge and murdering . He is the cause and the reason of mass death.
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Post by jimim on Mar 8, 2015 14:57:26 GMT
I think Hamlet's sins can be justified because those were other character's fault. If Claudius didn't murdered Hamlet's father and took king's place, these happenings wouldn't occurred.Also there is Gertrude's fault too because she was Hamlet's mother but she showed Hamlet that she betrayed Hamlet. So Hamlet's sins are justified.
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Post by daniel on Mar 8, 2015 15:25:25 GMT
I think Hamlet is guilty because any sins cannot be justified with anything. If one sin get justified, everything could be too. Hamlet should have jailed or put Claudius in trial, so he can be punished in right way, not to be murdered, He might be sentenced death.
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Post by nerdira on Mar 8, 2015 22:00:53 GMT
I'm sure Hamlet's guilty. He fully had the intention of murdering someone, which is Claudius. He had the motive, which is enough for us to put him away in jail.
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Post by woojong on Mar 9, 2015 14:50:04 GMT
As I said before, I don't know how 14th century Danish laws work, but killing someone for a person revenge can never be justified in today's standards. And I agree with this. Hamlet's actions were just too over emotional, and he could have brought an even worse revenge by killing Claudius.
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Post by misato on Mar 12, 2015 1:49:56 GMT
I don't think he is guilty. What if someone was hiding behind curtain of your mom's room... I think it is really scary and he just protected his mother.
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Post by danielkim on Mar 14, 2015 11:44:56 GMT
I think Hamlet is guilty. Even though Hamlet blames the murder to his madness (in Act 5 Scene 2), I do not agree with his opinion. Hamlet initially wanted to kill Claudius but killed Polonius accidently, which shows that the murder was on purpose. It is still his fault for not having self-control and preventing madness from influencing his action. It also seems reasonable that Laertes did not accept Hamlet’s apology at the end of this monologue because the loss of Polonius has huge impact to Laertes’s life.
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Post by bachle on Mar 14, 2015 13:42:27 GMT
I think we have to wait until the end of the trial to answer this question. All thing can be turned from lie to truth and vice versa. Hamlet's action will be defined by the work of the lawyers.
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Post by dannyoh on Mar 14, 2015 13:45:14 GMT
Hamlet is guilty no matter what even if he was mad. If he was crazy, he was still a sane person before which does not give an excuse to justify his crime.
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Post by leeeeena on Mar 15, 2015 8:57:06 GMT
I don't think Hamlet's murder should be justified because he had a feeling of murder when he accidentally killed Polonius.
it was not a self-defense and he did not have any mental problem so he should be punished.
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Post by lukejoo on Mar 15, 2015 11:45:08 GMT
Murder can be justified only when it was in terms of self-defense. This would mean when it means you get killed by the other person, or you kill that person to survive. As for Hamlet's case, I think it can be considered as self-defense. He was in a bit uneasy mind state so his judgment may have become a bit clouded. So it is not strange to think that he would have considered the man behind the curtain to be after his life as the nobility was often threatened by assassins at the time.
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Post by edward95312 on Mar 15, 2015 12:15:49 GMT
I don't think so. If we put ourselves there, We can totally understand what he did. He did not make these situations on purposely. Whether he made it on purpose, i can agree why he did that. His madness is the problem.
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