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Post by dannyoh on Feb 1, 2015 3:23:56 GMT
Hey guys:) So in class we were discussing about how Claudius was telling Hamlet to suck it up and get over his father's death. Do you guys agree? How long do you think a person should mourn for something as big as someone important to you passing away? For me, I don't agree with Claudius telling Hamlet what to do. Although if i were Hamlet, I wouldn't show my depression to anyone. I don't think there's ever a certain time to get over someone's death. I would always be mourning but it wouldn't mean that i'd have to show it on the outside. (sorry for the depressing topic but there were no more threads for me to reply to)
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Post by justink on Feb 1, 2015 3:30:00 GMT
If i were hamlet, i would do that same. I probably would spend even longer time for mourning as losing a family member should be a traumatizing event. Claudius's advice is actually helpful since depression wouldn't help the situation. Hamlet's father wouldn't want to see Hamlet suffer like that either; therefore, Hamlet should get over the tragedy and move on. However, having Claudius, Hamlet's uncle/ now father, give such advice should enrage Hamlet……… i would be furious -_-
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Post by brandonina on Feb 1, 2015 4:52:37 GMT
I don't think you can ever stop mourning for a dead person who is important your life. I've never experienced death of my family member so I have no idea how I would deal with the situation and the amount of time I would be mourning. But if I were Hamlet, I would actually show my depression because I usually can't hide my feelings just to myself and it's worse for me to just repress my emotions. At the same time though, I think Hamlet should ideally hide his feelings because if Claudius sees his Hamlet (now his son) mourning for his father, I think he would be able to expect Hamlet's action in the future since it's obvious that Hamlet is mad. So yeah  |
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Post by hansoo on Feb 1, 2015 8:10:49 GMT
Simply telling someone to suck it up and get it over with really doesn't help. Even though Claudius may really mean such thing and try to encourage Hamlet, he would have to have approached differently. I totally feel the emotions and struggles of Hamlet, and understand the cause of his madness/rage. I hope Claudius can approach to him and consort him in more of a sensitive or emotional way.
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Post by James on Feb 1, 2015 10:54:56 GMT
For me, I would be devastated if I lose one of my family members. I think I would mourn way longer than Hamlet did. And the fact that Claudius told Hamlet to forget about the past and move on was really messed up since Claudius was the one who killed Hamlet's father. Moving on with Hamlet's life, of course, would benefit him better, but he has the right to stay in depression as long as he wants.
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Post by daniel on Feb 1, 2015 11:31:20 GMT
i think being sad isn't a wrong thing that there is no set time for how long people have to be sad for their dead relatives. However, after some amount of time passes, I think Hamlet has to be sad without expressing anything.
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Post by elisalee on Feb 1, 2015 12:14:59 GMT
If I were in Hamlet's situation, I wouldn't be able to get over someone's death in you family very quickly.Even if time flies and they don't feel as much pain as before, they are still going to remember and mourn whenever they remember the person. It is very messed up for him to tell Hamlet to just suck it up and get over it because he was the one who killed Hamlet's father.
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Post by edward95312 on Feb 1, 2015 12:24:05 GMT
i would do same thing as hamlet. when he was going to crazy that is normal people's behave when they lose their parents and mom is marrying other man soon. i would be more crazy than him. we should not get over it. that is not true things to do.
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Post by jimim on Feb 1, 2015 12:42:14 GMT
I think I wouldn't be sad much as Hamlet because anyway people should be dead and if one is dead than one is not in real place. Death is something that should occur and no one cannot avoid it so when people are dead, I think I will just admit it and do normal things that I was doing.
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Post by agneslianaputri on Feb 1, 2015 12:43:36 GMT
Its easy for claudius to say "suck it up" because his relationship with hamlet father was not a good one and he's trying to cover up his rotten plan. As for Hamlet, grief almost always lasts longer than the people around you expect it to. Especially that its his father, the man who he looks up to. But the way he always expresses it to ANYONE and EVERYONE around him makes it look..like..he's craving for attention(?) You can never get over the grief, but many people experience it and its not only you who's hurting so its best to not expose your grief to everyone around you all the time.
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Post by saimoon1 on Feb 1, 2015 13:32:35 GMT
I think the timeline of mourning for a person depends on how important the person was. I think Hamlet's mourning of his father for a long time is alright. He loved his father and definitely looked up to him. Moreover, his mother moved on, married his uncle and his uncle ordered him to suck it up, which i guess adds onto his depression and hence increase the duration of his mourning.
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Post by nerdira on Feb 1, 2015 14:42:56 GMT
Claudius was being a bit harsh on Hamlet. Clearly, Hamlet really loved and admired his father. Telling him to get over his father, while he pretty much took over his father's place as well as his father's wife, was not the best course of action he could've taken if he wanted to get closer to Hamlet. I personally feel that a person should be allowed to mourn for as long as they want, because people mourn in different ways.
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Post by irin on Feb 1, 2015 15:28:17 GMT
I think I will do mournring for long time when I loose my family memebers but I think sometimes it is so sad I will try to get rid of it because it was so sad.
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Post by sergeyfen on Feb 1, 2015 15:39:02 GMT
I would mourn my father's death for as long as it takes me to get over it, if it's years or even decades it is up to me taking as much time as i want. Hamlet loved his father and of course it's a shock for him to lose someone that he loved and especially being that close mourning for so long is the only right thing to do. Claudius was just flat out wrong because he did not just try to get over it or you will feel better, nah, he said to suck it up and to be a man. What is wrong with that man? Killing his own brother for power and being able to look straight into his nephew's son and say to suck it up that is just messed up.
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Post by bachle on Feb 1, 2015 19:43:12 GMT
I personally think that Hamlet should actually suck it up and move on.Death is inevitable and you can be sad, miss them but mourning for too long time and don't move on is wrong. You can be way deep down into depression after your loved one's death but as time moves on, you gotta move on.
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